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fein-turbo-ii-review-paper A versatile, powerful wet/dry vacuum, the Bissell 18P03 can be wall-mounted in your garage, and its thirty-two-foot hose can reach anywhere in the garage—making it ideal for cleaning the inside of your car or picking up spills. We liked the strong, crush-resistant hose, which doesn’t tangle easily or lose suction despite its length.  Fein Turbo II. Shop-Vac Dewalt DC Fein Turbo II Wet/Dry Vacuum Set. Be the first to review this product. High performance wet and dry vacuum cleaner with power tool connection for workshop and installation use. Quiet at just 66 dB. 19' power cord and 13' hose for excellent range. $ Brand: Fein. Availability: On order. This item will ship when back in stock (More Info). Shipping: Free in Continental US (More Info). SKU. T-FEIN VACII. Qty. Add to Cart. Details. The Turbo II is a high performance wet and dry vacuum cleaner with power tool connection for workshop and installation use. This is the standard version. See our brand rating for Fein and analysis of 3, Fein Reviews for 51 Products in Tools & Home Improvement and HEPA Air Purifiers.  ReviewMeta is a tool for analyzing reviews on Amazon. Our analysis is only an ESTIMATE. PASS/FAIL/WARN does NOT indicate presence or absence of "fake" reviews. We are not endorsed by, or affiliated with, Amazon or any brand/seller/product. By using our site, you are agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy.  Fein Turbo Ii Paper Dust Bag 1 Micron. Analyze Reviews. Fein Sanding Pad With Hook And Loop Fasteners, 2-Pack. We chose Airwatts because it is a result of both paperr and airflow. In theory this should result in a cleaner, longer lasting, motor. A link to each is included with specific manufacturer specifications. Dry Vacuuming 9. I learned a lot.

Decibels are logarithmic so for every 10db difference it is perceived as twice the volume. To be clear — there is a difference between loudness and actual sound energy.

Energy doubles every 3 dB — so twice as much damage will occur to your inner ear at 88 as will occur at 85 dB. Loudness has a psychological component — and something has to be 10 dB louder to sound twice as loud — but that is 10 times more damaging not two!

When I started working with RF electronics years ago, it took a long time to wrap my head around the terms used with decibels a tenth of a Bell — in honor of old Alexander Bell. A simple idea, but not a simple term. It can be used as a unit of measurement, as it can be used both as a measurement of absolutes with units of reference. The 10x vs 20x issue is largely due to energy formulas vs voltage formulas.

Just keep like terms in mind to simplify. Thanks Michael — We struggle to find a way to present this data in a meaningful way to readers. It is complicated, but also something readers want to know about. These test are very well done. The only thing is you left the best vacuum by far in this market off the test.

Do some research on Pulse Bac. When promoting your product in a comment, you should always write a disclaimer that you work for or have an interest in the company.

The only problem with the Pulse is the price! I had to check my pulse when I saw the price, it costs three times more than the Hilti, and the Hilti is not cheap! Clean test is not pointless at all. It establishes a benchmark for each machine to compare its ideal performance vs. If anything it speaks to how well each manufacturer compensated for the inevitable state in which their machine would function.

Fantastic information in an entertaining way! The blog gives so much insight into the subject matter that it does not only become quite easy to understand the concept but to implement it as well. For me Makita is the clear winner. Festool might be expensive but they also hold value better than any other brands. Hi guys … Super..

Super impressed with the tests conducted and the detail you went into My only comment would be that there was no measure of actual input power… I assume you just used the name plate rating on the device You get full marks. Mark — Each extractor was plugged into the same power sources at each test. Under the cost section you briefly mention the warranty, which is good, but no where in the review was the cost of filter bags and HEPA filter discussed and what the average cost per year might be if you could determine a frequency for how often the extractor would need to be emptied.

Jim — We struggled with that, as everyone uses these vacs differently. We did write and link to another article on using fleece bags, and how costs come into play. My compliments on the testing of dust extractors. It was thorough, easy to understand and measured those parameters that are important to us users.

I learned a lot. Thank you Haim Loran. Thanks for this informative test although it comes too late for the Fein I just purchased. One question related to the pics of the anemometer. The probe tip appears to be oriented differently in the two pics. Did you ensure that it was always oriented as shown in the lower photo? Also, at what distance from the vacuum was the noise level determined? The probe is in the identical place in both pictures.

The upper picture was taken at a time when the protective sleeve pulled down over the probe elements. We pulled down the protective air-tight sleeve to zero out the meter every time We changed the units to ensure that it calibrated to an absolute zero airflow. My favorite dust extractor is the Dustcontrol DCa for power, light weight, easy removal of collected dust, filter life and likely motor life.

This is a quiet unit, certainly compared to my other shopvac. The downside is initial price, about twice that of the Hilti. For even more dust storage capacity, and comparable performance in other areas, consider an Ermator dust extractor. The downside to the Ermator is weight, 65 pounds compared to 31 for the Dustcontrol.

I have a thought for the scoring system, you mentioned being open to changing. This is a little complex but would, in my opinion, give really accurate score total.

Then add up each category turn the test results into percentage based off of closest number easily usable. Could use same scale only backwards? Appreciate the input. When we set out to develop our head-to-head tests, we try to develop tests that are in our opinion fairly evenly matched.

The good news is we publish the data, and readers can take that data and make their own rankings. Thanks again. Typically, when taking anemometer readings with a probe you used in the illustration, the holes in the probe are at 90 degrees to the air stream when reading static psi. This has always been taught in training courses, even by the manufactures. You have yours in line with the stream.

I may see this position for cfm, but for static readings it may be incorrect. The static pressure in our testing was performed with a water column. We did not use the anemometer for static pressure, only cfm readings. Nilfisk is the original equipment manufacturer for a number of the extractors in this test. Recently revisted this review and noticed a possible flaw in the testing. The four lowest rated; Milwaukee, Metabo, fein and Dewalt are.

Hepa filters restrict air flow so it would make sense they would suffer on performance. Maybe this helps explain why the Metabo and fein cfm were at the bottom. That particular festool model is designed for drywall dust, thus the auto clean function and the lack of HEPA.

But that will change the performance results. This was an important point when I was picking out my vacuum. I would have liked to see an orbital sander test done as well.

Can the vacuum power be adjusted so that swirl marks are reduced when a DC is connected? It is great that you did all big tool companies, but the best portable small dust vacuum is an American Made one, Pulse-Bac, why was this brand not included?

I use Pulse-Bac and would never buy any of the brands you have tested after buying one. That brand has been out there for 15 years, the originally designed vacuum to handle dust from tools and the only brand that meets all of OSHA Silica rules governing a vacuum used for silica for the past 15 years.

Not to mention the original vacuum to automatically back pulse filters clean while working. Also, maybe testing in real world conditions would be better to know, water lift, CFM and Air watts do not matter if the vacuum clogs while working. How much CFM is lost when being used? Thanks for the stats, let me know when you actually measure real time performance.

To clarify we are NOT a testing lab but we feel we do a good job at what we do. Sounds like someone is looking for some air-time and exposure for your vac. Thanks for commenting — next time be transparent that you work for a manufacturer. Good catch, Rob. I could never support a company with these kind of unethical deceptive practices.

But now.. The point is that obviously a Hepa filter would further restrict air flow giving the some brands a unfair advantage. I would be curious how much the Hepa filter affects performance. The milwaukee can be run with its hepa filter removed because of their multi filter system. This would allow testing with the same unit to discover how much performace is lost. In each test case, we used the filters from the manufacturers that the manufacturers promoted as meeting the silica standards.

These units, like Bosch, it meant that the paper filters that ship with the units need to be replaced with their Bosch HEPA filters before the dust collector and filter can meet the spec in combination. In another special case, Festool, their unit has been EPA certified and rated for lead paint removal work for well over a decade.

TBB based our overall performance measurements on Airwatts. We chose Airwatts because it is a result of both suction and airflow. On the static suction side, the maximum inches of water column are reached when no air is going through the unit so filters have absolutely no bearing on Fein Turbo Ii Review Rule that particular test. On the airflow side, all of the units had the manufacturers HEPA or equivalent filters, tested clean, and installed along with clean fleece bags.

Our air flow tests were less about the filters because of the fleece bags keeping them clean than if we had run the tests and allowed the dirt to get entrapped into the HEPA filters. To summarize, TBB remains very comfortable with our approach producing a consistent and level set of results. Hey been watching your videos here In Australia for a while you guys do a great job. I just wanted to ask your opinion as I just ordered the Milwaukee extractor featured in this video.

I wanted to know if you guys think it would work well with my Festool track saw, sander and other wood working tools also? Many thanks Jimmy.

They do such a great job especially with masonry applications. The Dustcontrol DCC Eco is my choice for this, compact size, 32 pounds empty, can handle months of steady work before a filter change is needed. The Metabo one is actually made in Germany by Starmix they did manufacture for other brands like Makita, Fein, Hilti as well in the past. Thanks for these tests! I will only use a fleece bag and hepa filter, but I see I have a choice between manual and auto filter cleaning.

Will a cyclone I already have one paired with a manual filter cleaner work as well as a machine with an auto filter cleaner? The prices are in the same ball park.

Any thoughts will be appreciated. Auto is my preference as it provides the most optimum performance keeping that filter as clean as possible. Were these done with auto clean on? The tests were done with the autoclean turned on. Obviously, the older the filter the performance will drop off…but autoclean features have drastically improved that performance for longer periods. Thanks for the great review. What about air quality of the exhausted air?

How fine are the particles being blown back into the room? To me this is the most important metric. A couple of comments. First, a good start to evaluation of a complex product. Airflow — air watts are calculated a given flow point.

The water column measure is the suction head at zero flow one condition. The CFM measure is a quasi-open flow condition 2 with nearly zero suction pressure and maximum flow. Both would have almost zero air watts.

This will give you a mid-range operation point more indicative of real operation with a partially blocked filter and load from tool pressure drops. With a static pitot tube probe in the tube connected to a manometer, then a comparison could be made just on the relative pressure readings which will show a combined flow and pressure value higher being better. If you want efficiency, a measure of the input electrical power could be used in conjunction with the airflow.

Sound — the measure has some merit but has some issues that could be cleaned up in future work. First, the phone mic has limited ability to capture all sound. They are designed to filter out extraneous noise while transmitting speech. Purchase an inexpensive audio mic for sound analysis so that all frequencies are properly captured. Second, consider moving the mic to about a meter away from the source for better representative values.

Also, measure sound in several places around the product. Both positional changes may show that directionality may be a factor in the evaluation. Finally, how are you controlling background noise so that they are not intruding on any given test point?

Unfortunately I have to agree that this comparison is merely a good start that raises as many questions as it answers. Dusts collection from hand-held power tools is every bit as important as it is from the stationary tools, but actual data is severely lacking by comparison.

As noted, the data from this review provides the CFM at effectively no static pressure and static pressure at zero CFM end points, but almost no data about the vacuum curve in between.

Completely made up example to be clear, just attempting to illustrate the issue. Ideal test would adopt methodology as Fan Guy suggests, but with data points for multiple orifice diameters in order to chart the relationship between CFM and static pressure across the potential operating range.

I find many shop vacs noisy enough that I wear hearing protection when using them. Those who are concerned about noise should consider the length of the hose supplied with a vac, or shop for a long hose they can connect.

Farther from the vac will be less noisy. I agree with Fan Guy about testing with a smaller diameter length of pipe at the end of the hose. Again the length and diameter of the hose are relevant, a longer, smaller diameter hose will be likely to reduce flow, but is easier to work with.

Initially I was puzzled by how much your side-by-side results contrasted with to side-by side comparisons of the manufacturers specs from their websites. The manual specs yielded side-by-side comparisons that were more in line with your results. I was also puzzled by the erratic falloff in cfm once the bags were dirty. The vacs all seem to have about the same wattage blower.

Perhaps the difference is explained by the surface area of the filters and the size of the bags. Dust extractors extract dust… or do they??? Earlier, William Anderson asked about air quality. You answer was that you cannot test everything but I would think this is a fundamental question begged by a dust extractor.

This is a major issue of health and safety. Does it extract dust? Everything else is honestly only interesting. High mechanical performance numbers are useless if the unit is not properly filtering out the most dangerous particles, which are the ones we cannot see.

It would not be an easy test but no more difficult than the other tests you set up. And far more important. I applaud your effort, but I honestly think you missed a core test which is of great interest to our lungs.

No offense, but Consumer Reports would have likely done this. We interview product managers and engineers from the tool manufacturers. We ask them their thoughts on our testing approach, and try to get their consensus on our approach. But, we can test the performance to suck up materials one of the primary functions of these tools , and compare them to each other.

Yes dust is critical, but the performance to get the job done is as well. The gents at TBB did a great job of doing a relative comparison of several popular units. They developed a test protocol, explained their procedure, conducted the evaluation and from what it appears they presented the results transparently. Yes there was some subjectivity on what and how to test — but that is true of almost any type of testing. Bagging on them about not developing the actual fan performance curves or comparing this and that are being overly critical.

I commend them for being a better job than most reviews that you see on the Internet. Or better yet, go out and conduct your own testing and absorb your costs and time and post your results of particulate effectiveness or comparative fan performance curve and wire to air efficiencies. Agreed that would be a cherry on top. Jon — Thank you! We put a ton of time into doing these, no one pays us to do the tests.

Sure we get traffic and that helps build our brand, but we purposely make everything transparent so guys can make their own final judgement. Filters are important but they are not what was evaluated. Great Comparison. However, not all the extractors came with a. The recent redesign includes practical changes that only improve the performance. Also on the wish list, although this might be asking for the moon, is a retractable cord. The Turbo II would be a fine addition to the tool collection of both the consumer and professional.

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