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titebond-liquid-hide-glue-vs-old-brown-glue-gun Franklin has some sort of goofy date code often too faint to read, or half rubbed off. A wood failure means that the glue bond held and the wood itself gave way to stress. Or, once it grabs, is that it for moving parts? OBG and Fish Glue both grab pretty quickly. Interestingly, after we finished our non-scientific poll, we found that there was a tie in the race for the most-smelly glue. Thread Modes.

These glues have similar working properties and both provide sound a glue joint for furniture conservation or construction. Old Brown Glue is a mixture of animal collagen and urea with no other additives.

Titebond Liquid Hide Wood Glue lists cyanoguanidine used in the manufacture of plastics and pharmaceuticals and ammonium thiocyanate used chiefly as a herbicide and in textile printing. Old Brown Glue appears opaque or cloudy when squeezed from the bottle, and getting it from the bottle is no easy task when the glue is at room temperature. Additives to the glues make the Titebond product left transparent while the Old Brown Glue is nearly opaque. Editor Christopher Schwarz, an ardent user of Old Brown, simply deposits the bottle into a pail of hot tap water.

After a few minutes, the glue is ready to use. Titebond liquid hide glue, when dispensed from the bottle, is very clear, almost transparent. How will your nose react to these glues?

We often hear woodworkers disparage the smell of hot hide glue. But does the liquid version of this smelly adhesive possess the same attributes? We blindly tested the smell of the two glues within the Woodworking Magazine shop. What we discovered was a landslide winner — if you can call it a winner.

Every member of the staff chose the Old Brown as the smelliest. Interestingly, after we finished our non-scientific poll, we found that there was a tie in the race for the most-smelly glue. Non-woodworkers, for the most part, preferred the Old Brown smell and found the Titebond glue more offensive. More Interesting Comparisons A rub joint, wherein you add glue to two pieces of wood and rub them together until the glue achieves its initial tack, is a benefit of hot hide glue. So, we tested the initial tack with the two glues.

The Titebond product had virtually no perceivable tack. When the Old Brown product was rubbed, you could immediately feel a tack in the process. No, there was not the same tack as with hot hide glue, but you could feel a slight grab as the two pieces were joined.

Score one for Old Brown. However, we remembered that the Old Brown glue was heated and wondered if that preliminary tack was due to the glue gelling as it cooled. To keep the test equal, we heated the Titebond glue and performed the same test. Our original findings held. The Titebond glue exhibited less tack than was found with the Old Brown Glue.

The Most Important Comparisons Smell, color, transparency and initial tack are notable characteristics of these two liquid hide glues, but the important features are how the glue joint holds up and what it takes to reverse glued-up joints. The holding power of the Titebond Liquid Hide Glue Vs Old Brown Glue Ltd glue joint is of primary importance when building or constructing a project. If you experience failure, your project is nothing more than a pile of sticks.

There are two types of failure as shown in the photo below. The first is glue failure the left-most pieces , where the glue bond fails and the two pieces come apart directly on the glue line. A second failure is wood failure the right-most pieces in the photo. This is what you hope to find if you have a problem. A wood failure means that the glue bond held and the wood itself gave way to stress. While this is not something you wish for, it happens to a single joint, for the most part, and not throughout your project.

Pieces on the right side, with ragged edges, clearly show wood failure. To test the glues for failure, we assembled 10 sets of joints using Eastern white pine, five joints per glue. What we found from our basic test was that 60 percent of the failures were in the wood, 30 percent involved partial wood failure and 10 percent were a complete glue-joint failure. What was interesting is that both liquid hide glues experienced identical results.

The only difference was in the partial wood failures. More wood fibers were apparent on the Titebond assembly than on the joint glued with Old Brown glue. Hot hide glue is reversible with heat and moisture. Liquid hide glue has the same characteristic. The simple test we did to discover which product is most-easily reversed was to apply heat from an ordinary hair dryer.

In , the Titebond glue separated. The break was about 80 percent glue failure. Additional patience might have kept the wood preserved. Pages 2 : 1 2 Next ». Thread Modes. Aram Member. Do any of you have experience with both? I'm talking about joinery, not veneer or anything like that. Best, Aram, always learning "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.

CStan Member. I've used both and can't tell any difference. I like OBG because they write the expiration date clearly on the bottle. Franklin has some sort of goofy date code often too faint to read, or half rubbed off.

I've also used both but not extensively and not noticed any difference. I started with absolutely nothing. Now, thanks to years of hard work, careful planning, and perseverance, I find I still have most of it left.

Thank you both. Maple Leaf New User. I've used them both quite a bit, as well as the "Fish Glue" that StewMac sells. All three are excellent, and there's no discernible difference in the cured glue line. However Titebond takes significantly longer before it "grabs", which is often helpful when one needs time to persuade parts into alignment. OBG and Fish Glue both grab pretty quickly.

Once OBG grabs, can you still break it loose, reposition and have a successful glue up? Or, once it grabs, is that it for moving parts? Thanks, Curt "Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. Tony Z Something other--as requested. It has a bit more open time, but, if you "rub" the joint, grip happens very quickly. It is a white glue and I now prefer it over any other similar formula but hide glue remains my top choice.

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