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Thread Tools Show Printable Version. Steam-Bending 1. I've read up on steam bending. But oak seems soooo hard and dense. The bend will be a half-circle about " inside diameter. Before I go and build a little steam oven, has anybody successfully steam-bent a 1. Rowel Steam-Bending 1. Originally Posted by PeteCress. Herreshoff The Compleat Cruiser.

The best oak to steam is green, fresh cut, next is air dried and near impossible to bend is kiln dried. It was fresh cut. It did not bend easy, but it bent. If you wish to bend a kiln hending dowel, don't. I believe that some of the research I bendng said that dried, especially kiln dried wood, will resist and most probably fail, and the radius bending oak dowel zip are attempting will bending oak dowel zip be most difficult.

On the other hand…. And as David said, there is grain runout to consider. What are you making? Simpler is bending oak dowel zip, except when complicated looks really cool. As has been pointed out, any wood that's kiln dried has had its lignum transformed and cannot be steam bent.

Strips will do it. Best if the oak is so green it didn't even know it was cut down and milled, but at least not kiln dried. Since this job can be done with pieces only about two feet long, bending oak dowel zip your two or so foot oak log and do some splitting. If it's air dried oak, you might soak it a while.

I do this in sea water weighting one end to bending oak dowel zip the piece to float about vertically. And then steam away. You'll want to look up the formulae because once you have the box up to temperature you don't want to oversteam. You can bend bending oak dowel zip clamp these pieced on a length of pipe and let them set for a couple of days. When you take them off there will be some spring bending oak dowel zip so the inner plys will need squeezing in and the outers may need a little spreading.

The oak should accomodate that. Originally Posted by Oldad. Originally Posted by David G. Dowel you have purchased Moisture Content is the key. Most commercial dowel stock has been kiln dried to a very low M. That makes it hard to bend - even though oak, as a species, is quite amenable to bending. Not only do you need good bending stock from a m. Originally Posted by Paul Pless. It can be done!

Green 6 Foot Oak Dowel Rods Zip Code saplings! I don't know if the vid warns you Sometimes this creates a fortuitiously interesting effect. Sometimes it creates rejects. Don't expect to do just one and have it turn out perfectly.

Originally Posted by DeniseO The stuff available on Youtube and sites like it is incredible Pete! If your wood won't work you could always use a horn top, which is what a lot of the Scottish sticks use. It's bomb-proof. Armpit height works pretty well and gives you something to lean on when resting. Originally Posted by Ian McColgin. Perhaps what I was bending oak dowel zip was simply wrong.

Perhaps for a mild Tas Oak Dowel 50mm Zip bend one can get away with it. Perhaps kiln dried can be more extremely bent but with the lignum altered by kiln drying it's bent but not as strong. I really don't know but I'm betting dwel last for the moment.

And this could be worth a literature search. Thanks for the reply, Beneing. I was leaning toward the possibility bwnding however remote benring bending oak dowel zip the lumberyard was in error. Reduced strength in an extreme bend is definitely a possibility. I'll see what a search turns up. I found bending oak dowel zip bunch of folk who pointed out that since steaming restored moisture content, you can for sure bend kiln dried wood.

I did not yet find specifics on what kiln drying does to lignum, especially versus air drying to the same moisture content. All the folk I've read so far who tout their ability to bending oak dowel zip bend kiln dried wood don't even mention the lignum.

Heat in general softens lignum. I don't know if dry heating and then cooling makes the lignum less strong once cooled. I also don't know if two heat to cool cycles, whether kiln dry then steam bending or two steam bends, weakens the lignum.

It's not at all normal to steam bend twice. I do know for sure that steam bending green wood works better than steam bending dried wood. Join Date Nov Posts 37, Bending can also be done with dry heat, as well. Get a short section of heavy pipe with the right radius, build a suitable jig, heat bending oak dowel zip pipe and wrap the wood around it. Same precautions as for steam apply; your jig should include a metal strap against the outside of the bend, even with a split-out piece; there will be some rebound when the jig is released, so without being bent bending oak dowel zip a larger structure that acts like a form, the diameter will be larger than the pipe, so you'd have izp figure the overbend, and use a smaller diameter pipe, to compensate.

If you had a part that would fit in an oven, that would work, too. I've done that last but I'm not claiming experience with the rest of the above. The jig I would build would likely hold a length of dowel as well as a rectangular section, and forming the roundness will be much easier and straightforward before the bend.

I have bending oak dowel zip that the proper application of ammonia will also work, but it is also problematic, dangerous and presents the issue of what to do with the ammonia afterwards.

Alternatives include bending laminations, which just isn't the same visually, but is as strong and stable as you can get, and the bend coming out of the jig won't rebound, and so the result can be precise and uniform if, say, you were wanting to bend a batch. And also alternately, the right chunk of wood might be found bending oak dowel zip has a grown bend that could be exploited but you'd probably have to spend some considerable time in an oak grove finding one, and with some consession to joinery, bending oak dowel zip suitable bend can be cut from a plank and the short grain compensated for with the help of a graved in piece of wood with the grain oriented ninety degrees off to provide insurance against the weak short grain.

That is probably also not bending oak dowel zip on aesthetic grounds. And finally, some actual real advice that I can vouch for through personal experience, though this might bending oak dowel zip some bemding by some of our members: do a search that includes 'Smalser' as a term, and then go read his posts on the woodworking sites the search will lead you to.

He does nice photo-documented tutorials on all sorts of woodworking with traditional hand tools and techniques. Speak softly and carry a mouthful of marbles. Ammonia steam is amazing. A friend as part of his wood technology degree did bdnding. Bending oak dowel zip don't recall the dimensions of the piece - something wildly improbable like a 10' long 6x6 of oak.

Put it in ammonia steam and then when it came out nending it in a figure 8 knot. The environmental and health in handling problems are huge and there is no good commercial excuse for ammonia steaming.

WoodenBoat Magazine a decade or so back had a nice piece on far East fire bending zio planks. Now that's dry heat! Originally Posted by oznabrag. The cell structure of wood is compromised by curing, whether by 'air' or 'kiln', with the kiln doing more pak.

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