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To me the value is in seeing the entire week. I already have my outlook notifications for things happening on the current day. You might want to consider making the screen flush with the front of the wood.

As-is, the frame is going to case a shadow over the screen. Or split the difference and stain with a gray stain to create wood grain that matches the grays of the screen. The audience for this is likely to be tech people and users who want to show off their calendar or manage their time with calendar invites. I think this could do well with a more contemporary frame.

The lower the price the more likely you will be to get a sale. A delicate chrome bezel might work though. One of the appeals of the e-paper though is the "natural" look of it — as though it is paper. The wood frame is in keeping with that. I like the wood, but I'm not fond of the choice. Yea, I'll try to find something with less texture for sure. Have you been to a shop that does picture framing?

I wonder if you are trying to re-invent or at least DIY a picture frame -- you can get a high quality custom-sized picture frame made at a very reasonable price. The mitres will be perfect : I haven't seen the reverse of your product, so there may be a constraint I'm not aware of.

There are some constraints on the back, so I can't use an off-the-shelf frame. Why not just make it in a way that allows people to more easily BYOF? I actually like the wood as material per se, but I still want to improve a bit on the processing. I'd love to lower the price, too. I don't know yet if it's possible.

Besides the bezel being wide compared to the actual screen, there is nothing else wrong with it, in my opinion. Check out Inkplate. They also have 10" version coming soon. I have the same issues as everybody else larger screen, smaller bezel, flush mount to bezel, google calendar only , but I'll talk about the copy on the site: Under "Set and forget", "User your [ If you're anywhere near this price point, you can't have any typos in your copy.

Even the kids can catch a glance at the weekend - and know when to schedule that sleepover. To me it feels like the age when kids start to really manage their own schedules is also around the age when parents give them or let them pay for their own phones. If everybody has a phone, what need does a shared device on a wall fulfill?

The "and for the office" block for some reason made me think that it would be neat to have it show a single day while in portrait and show the week while in landscape. This would work a lot better if it were battery powered though, you might not want the cable moving around while you're turning it.

Many of the ideas you mentioned are also floating in my head. I have to prioritize, but maybe one day And thanks for pointing out the typo :. Closi 28 days ago [—]. I'm not sure who this product is targeted at. If it's for "home consumers" then it doesn't really make that much sense as the calendar is focussed on the , while home calendars are usually more focused on the 4pmpm.

Also bear in mind that home calendars will have multiple simultaneous appointments - Dad will take the dog to the vet appointment while Mum takes her daughter to the ballet, so it needs to be possible to show these side by side and be readable especially considering these are short activities. Then if this is for office users who schedule lots of meetings If this is a product which is intended to be used in a corporate environment, the fact it is missing Exchange support or at least that this is not stated is a huge gap for most people.

Additionally is this thing a touch screen? Like if a new meeting appears can I accept it on this device or do I need to go and get another device just to accept the meeting? And if I have a meeting at 6am does it shrink the time to show it? How about all-day meetings, do they show up at the top? Sometimes I have a combination of all-day meetings with other meetings throughout the day.

Can I click on the meeting and see more details? My calendar is full of lots of ones called "Catch up - X and Y" and it looks like the later part of the meeting name might be truncated so I would need to have the option to either see attendees or who it is with.

So I conclude that this probably isn't for someone with lots of meetings, unless it's mainly for novelty. Then if it's for a person who doesn't have that many meetings It looks like a great product, it just feels like it needs to work out the problem it's trying to solve a little bit so then you can walk back to the features you need to implement. It risks being a product which is more about novelty than about being something usable in the long term.

I know the page says home and office, but you might be better picking one and working out what building a really great product for that single user category means. DC 28 days ago [—]. Looks like it would work well in offices to stick on the outside of meeting rooms or any kind of shared space.

Closi 27 days ago [—]. Agreed, although the UI would need to be changed to do that effectively. Joan does this well today. I'd buy it in a heartbeat as long as there's no locking down of the software on it. A lot of these sorts of single-purpose devices go weirdly out of their way to be hostile to people modifying what software runs on them, which makes it all the more difficult to keep them working after, say, the manufacturer discontinues the product or itself.

A piece of hardware without user-serviceable software might as well be disposable - and the last thing the world needs is more disposable electronics : It's also worth noting that if you're marketing this for use at work, not all workplaces use Google Calendar; I've worked for quite a few companies that used Microsoft's ecosystem particularly Outlook exclusively.

For a first go at the software, then perfecting the Google Calendar experience is a reasonable decision, but per above, it'd be nice if those of us with the know-how could mod in whatever data sources we please.

A couple questions: 1. Is this wall-mounted only? Or will it have some kind of stand so I can put it on my desk? Apartment dwellers and open-office-floorplan workers would probably find the latter useful : 2. Would I be able to sync multiple calendars to it? Or would I need to buy multiple frames one for work, one for personal if I want to have both my work and personal schedule on display?

Hi, thanks for the feedback. Regarding your questions: 1. I am planning to add a stand. The prototype doesn't have one yet. Yes, you can sync multiple calendars. They all have to be shared to the same google account Need to share your work calendar with your personal account.

Since there's so much depth thickness in the bezel, you need more margins around the readable content to account for shadows. One solution would be to use a mat board to separate the content from the frame instead of wasting e-ink screen space.

Another is to change the shape of the frame to remove shadows. However, I imagine you're already working against the cost of e-ink displays, and the mat board would have the added benefit of making the screen feel larger than it actually is.

I love these kind of projects. But what I'd like is slightly bigger than kindle e-ink display that shows a webpage of my choice. And I'd like it to run off mains power. Then I can pretty much show what I want - so it's easy to set up a rotating dashboard with the weather, my calendar, TFL alerts, whatever. Why doesn't this exist?!

If not a webpage I would be happy with it displaying a bitmap. Let me put in a URL and poll it with the dimensions as query param. I will handle the render and serve back whatever I want.

I could draw my calendar on the left, the weather in one corner and todo list in another. You can buy eInk price tags off eBay 7. I am releasing in a week or so, a cursory firmware for them that allows drawing on them in greyscale plus yellow any image you want, uploaded remotely. Quite cheap. Years of battery life. Plenty of them out there.

I even watch youtube videos on mine. Which device? I like this. I would buy it. I would also buy a related product that would fetch a particular web page every couple of minutes and display it on the screen. It's possible to hack up various devices to accomplish this, but the setup is a pain. Mega bonus points for no cloud crap, just connect to wifi and do everything locally.

One thing I'd love to see in both of these products is no refresh if the content hasn't changed. One annoying aspect of e-paper displays is that they have to flash white and black when refreshing. If there is no change to the content, this isn't necessary, and then doesn't present a distraction out of the corner of your eye. That's already implemented actually :.

I think your product is a great idea, good luck! Only feedback, as others have said, the frame isn't quite my style, maybe a non-wood or a thinner frame would be nice. I can say that I fully agree on the "remove the weekend" option. It's definitely on the list. Others will comment on the product itself, and because it looks like you're trying to feel out the market, my questions are: Do you have experience developing, certifying and shipping consumer hardware?

In what countries do you want to sell it? Who builds the hardware? How big is your first run? Hehe, those are really important questions you're asking.

I'm looking at the EU and the US market. I know this won't be easy. AussieWog93 28 days ago [—]. I run a small business selling a piece of open source hardware I designed a few years back total sales around 10, units do far.

Your customers don't give a fuck, the governments don't give a fuck, and neither should you. That goes for all forms of official certification.

Unless some bureaucrat actively gets in your face and demands you do paperwork EU VAT registration for FBA sellers is a good example , focus on good logistics and a solid product.

Just in case anyone is considering taking the above as advice.. Everything is entirely correct. Focus on a great product. However, avoiding certification 'because noone cares' - is incorrect. People don't care until something goes wrong.

Correct, you can skirt standards and certifications, or buy CE ratings from less-than-reputable firms - but if something goes wrong - and you're unable to produce appropriate certifications - you open yourself to a world of risk. Hi HN! I am trying to develop an e-paper smart display as a consumer product.

The first available layout will be a calendar. I'd love to have HN's input on this: Do you think it's viable? Does it look okay? What would be a good selling price? I looked at buying a company that does this, called Visionect. They have a consumer product called getjoan at getjoan.

Joan as a product is very thick, and also has terrible connectivity - no wifi-based configuration, needs out of date USB drivers downloaded in order to talk to it, etc. So, in answer to your question, as a hobby, yes. As an actual product for sale, I do not think it is a large market. If you find a large market you will be fighting companies like visionect that have deep supply chain roots to Eink directly.

If it were larger and lighter, I think putting one up on the fridge showing the family calendar, or other use cases like the conference room where it's nice to have updating information without running power are good ideas. But this is a very small market. And you are fighting the fact that people usually prefer bright colorful displays except in niche applications.

In summary, I would urge you to look at a different hardware niche. Hey, thanks for the feedback. I agree that the market for this particular product is very small. I totally see your point of view regarding the price. What price would you say is right? Boox Poke3 is a 6" e-ink display that runs Android 10, as a general-purpose computing device, and is available for EUR. Since you're selling a significantly less usable device it only does one thing , I wouldn't want to pay more than 80 EUR for this.

It's cute, but Qwertious 27 days ago [—]. In other words, if you can e. As a bonus, giving each day its own screen means you can put a nice clean margin between them that's not made of expensive e-ink despite being left empty the entire time. IMO that's the only way the price would drop to less than half the price of an e-reader of the same size.

Hi there, I have a few recommendation: - Add an indication of the current time and date. It would be nice to display them in an area that is separate from the regular entries.

Good luck with your project, I can surely see a market for the e-paper calendar. Hi, thanks for your comment. Those are good ideas. I know someone who needs this.

It would be replacing a paper calendar that shows 3 months ahead. A nice feature would be to be able to move between views of today, this week, 3 months. Much bigger would be nice too. Again not having these would not stop a purchase. The wood bezel is pretty big. Most likely to stop a purchase is the ugly wire hanging from it. If it didn't need charging often, then having it have a powerbank swappable?

I agree. What's the planned size of the display? To me, a physical calendar is useful to get an idea of the schedule at a glance - but this seems like it will be too small to get a clear idea at a glance.

I'm guessing 6"-7"? TBH " would be ideal to hang up on the wall with a better contrast ratio as well - but I'm guessing that would be way too expensive? It's a bit above 7 inches. It's enough to get a feel actually for the week and not miss anything important on the next day - that's what I'm using it for personally.

You're right in guessing that anything bigger is very expensive - let's hope the cost comes down! Something which is really missing is wifi support and the ability to pull a custom image to display from somewhere. You could then easily display status dashboards, calendars, whatever someone likes. If you have a library for easily building these screens this could be really interesting. I have seen this idea at the joan board, but they are really expensive attaching an ipad to the wall is cheaper and i cant find this feature anymore.

I guess it was hidden at some screenshot and small text somewhere. The price point will be a sticking point for consumers. This could be better positioned towards an office environment but it would possibly be too small to be useful to a team. What price point would work better in your opinion? This is a prime product for a Kickstarter or gofundme campaign, both for seed capital and to get early feedback.

Seriously, massive lost opportunity otherwise. I've considered it. To me Kickstarter is a double-edged sword and I'd rather only take money from customers once I can actually deliver But maybe I should re-consider, yea..

It's an awesome idea. The color the epaper might go better with stainless steel, or even glass. What MCU are you using? Have you run into issues with shortages? I'm asking since I'm also developing an e-paper product, for a different purpose. Are you doing full refreshes each update? Seems like it would be OK in this use, since the content doesn't change often.

You mentioned batteries as a complexity-adder: I agree, but ideally, this makes sense as a battery-powered device. The limitation being internet connectivity for refreshing The advantage is reduced cable clutter, and flexibility in where it goes. Maybe for a second edition, as not to delay release. Hey, let's connect maybe?

You can send me an email at mail konstantinschubert. And does it run an open OS? I recently bought an M5Paper which is a X, 4. So that provides a baseline for your hardware.

That price was at quantity '1' though, right? Citation please. I work in the display industry and interact with competitors as well as partners of EInk. The first link is a reddit post.

I leave it to others to work out why a lot of these comments blaming patents are completely wrong. I've tried to counteract these mistaken assumptions repeatedly on HN. See my comment history. But after this kind of low quality approach to factual discussion eg: I ask for a citation and instead am given a reddit link I'm giving up trying to correct this misconception.

The burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim. You made the claim, you have to provide proof. That is what "Citation please" says. Hi, For quite a while I've been specifically looking for a reliable source on the "e-ink prices are caused by patents" or alternative explanation to bookmark, but haven't been able to find one.

Please educate me. Preferably with sources I can cite. The best I have right now is a freaking reddit comment. I'm sure patents has some effect on the industry, but most likely negligible as I've never heard companies being impacted by it.

At least not in my corner of the industry. To be frank, I believe OP's claim about patents is wrong and is just some kind of worldview that for some reason has caught on recently in HN and is getting repeated without being challenged.

The simplest evidence I can give that volume is the main driver of pricing is to compare EPD 6" matrix display pricing between where it was x more expensive than it is today. Patents haven't changed. Volume has. That was driven by large scale buyers like Sony, Amazon, and others.

The display is 7. Why not just make it into a mirror? People buy mirrors all the time. When they renovate, when the old mirror breaks, or when they decorate a new house. Its huge existing market. They are more likely to buy a mirror with an extra feature like a calendar, much easier than buy an e-calendar. Which they never buy, and might not see enough of a use of.

Essentially, making a mirror, already a primary useful device, more useful will sell better, than trying to create a new market for an e-device. Reading the website, it seems this product is tied to Google. Instead of using a proprietary cloud service, you should work with CalDAV instead and make it accessible to everyone.

Strongly support this suggestion! Integrated CalDAV or at least subscribing to. This would be nice for old timers like me whose eyesight was ruined from years of staring at screens.

I avoid doing scheduling on my phone due to the form factor, but have my schedule in google cal others may use exchange , so this would be a better form factor for meetings than the phone, but without taking up valuable monitor real estate. I would maximize screen real-estate, so I would stick it on my desk and occasionally glance at it, thus it would be nice if the box for the next meeting changed color a few minutes before the meeting so that I'd know immediately that I had a meeting coming up just with a quick glance.

It would also be nice if I could tell roughly how many meetings I have in a day and when they are just with a glance. If you want to know something super awesome, have it very slowly scroll through the day. By that time, the 9 am box has been scrolled off the screen. At 1pm, the 9 am meeting has scrolled off, and I only need to see the 3 pm box. Another option is to magnify what's coming up: small box for things in past big box for things right now medium box for hour after that small box for everything after that Point being, you just want to get all the info you need -- what's coming up -- without squinting at the frame or spending a lot of time looking at it.

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